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65-0429E THE.CHOOSING.OF.A.BRIDE

John Collins5/9/2012 2:58:00 PMWMB starts quickly into the sermon, but speaks of the accuracy of the prayer lines:
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Brother Shakarian was saying this morning, how he used to go through the prayer lines, and reach down there and get those cards before the people would come up, and look at them, and see whether--whether I told them what they had wrote out there. They write all kinds of stuff on their prayer cards, you know, and he just wanted to see if it was right. He said, out of the hundreds that he had checked, there had never been one wrong. [Brother Shakarian says, "Never one wrong."--Ed.]
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Evidently, Brother Shakarian was not around when the lines got out-of-order.

Take the example of Middletown, OH, the prayer line got out of order. The first person was praying for her son, and the first person was praying for a sinner. They were out of order in the prayer line.
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God will reveal to me what that someone has, will you believe? It's your son. He's just a lad, a boy of about twelve years old. {…} That's correct. THUS SAITH THE LORD.
…next person…

Your a praying for your son. And your son has a heart trouble. And he's got a black shadow over him, for death. No, I beg your pardon, lady. He's a sinner.
BRANHAM, 58-0330E CHRIST.KNOCKING.AT.THE.DOOR_ MIDDLETOWN.OH

Later, also in Middletown, Mr. Short and Miss Day were out of order.
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Back trouble and kidney trouble, down the row there, Miss Day, you want to receive your healing?

…next person…

There is a man standing before me, he's had a operation for hemorrhoids; didn't do any good. Mr. Day, I beg your pardon, Mr. Short, stand up and receive your healing.
BRANHAM, 61-0317 ABRAHAM'S.GRACE.COVENANT_ MIDDLETOWN.OH

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At home in Jeffersonville, Mrs. Burton was supposed to be after his landlord, and Mrs. Parker was supposed to be in line ahead of his landlord.
Mrs. Burton, if you will believe... I don't know the woman, but if you'll believe with all your heart...

…next person…

Sister Larsen, I do know you. She's my landlord.

…next person…

You're near Bedford, Springville, something like. That's where it's at, Springville. Mrs. Burton… not… I beg your pardon; I didn't mean it. Mrs. Parker, that's your name, isn't it?
BRANHAM, 63-1110E HE.THAT.IS.IN.YOU_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN V-6 N-12 SUNDAY_



WMB then scares the crowd a bit. You'd better listen to that call! God may never call again!
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And many time, men and women hear God's Truth, and see It vindicated and proven, Truth, but yet they don't want to hear It. There's some other reason. There's some other choosing that they have, than to face up to Truth and fact, therefore their ears can be closed to the Gospel. They'll never hear It again. My advice to you, when God speaks to your heart, you act right then.
Elijah gave them a choice which they should. "Choose you this day whom you shall serve. If God be God, serve Him. But if Baal be God, serve him."
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This is not Biblical.
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The LORD is gracious and merciful, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. (Psalms 145:8)
The steadfast love of the LORD never ceases; his mercies never come to an end (Lamentations 3:22)



WMB then gets into his Gnostic teaching.
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Now, as we see that all of the natural thing is a type of the spiritual things, as we went through in our lesson this morning, as the sun and his nature. That was my first Bible. Before I ever read a page in the Bible, I knew God. Because, the Bible is written everywhere in nature, and it just corresponds with the Word of God: how the death, burial, resurrection of the nature; and the sun rising, crossing, setting, dying, rising again. There's so many things that we could type, God in nature, that we have to bypass, for this Message.
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In Deuteronomy 4, Moses warned the children of Israel not to raise their eyes towards heaven to worship astrology or astronomy, lest they be drawn away and bow down to serve them. These were things that the Lord God had given to all the people under the whole heaven. The Lord had taken them out of Egypt to be a people of His own inheritance.


WMB makes a statement that is a mistake that would be easy for any one of us to make. As a man who did not know his bible, this is a seemingly correct statement.
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Again, the kind of woman that a man would choose, will reflect his ambition and his character. If a man chooses the wrong woman, it reflects his character. And what he ties himself to, shows truly what's in him. A woman reflects what's in the man when he chooses her for wife. It shows what's down in him. No matter what he says outside, watch what he married.
I go to a man's office, and he says he's a Christian; pin-ups all around on the walls, that old boogie-woogie music going on. I don't care what he says. I don't believe his testimony, because his spirit is feeding on them things of the world. What, say, if he would marry a chorus girl, or what if he would marry a sex queen, or just a pretty, modern ricketta? It reflects. It shows what he has in his mind, of what his future home is going to be, because he's took her to raise his children by. And whatever she is, that's the way she'll raise those children. So, it reflects what's in the man. A man that takes a woman like that, shows just what he's thinking of the future.
Could you imagine a Christian doing a thing like that? No, sir. I could not. A true Christian will not look for such beauty queens, and chorus girls, and sex queens. He'll look for Christian character.
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Remember, though, WMB claimed to be a prophet. He claimed to know the prophets. What about Hosea, who married a prostitute to show God's relationship to the faithless?

God does not look towards the outside, God looks towards the inside. Message pastors today preach the 'yoke not yourselves with unbelievers' doctrine against 'message believers' who marry 'non-message Christians', forgetting that it might be in God's divine plan for them to be together.


He then basically says, "good girls can't be pretty."
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Now, you can't have all things. There might be one girl that's real pretty. And the other girl, maybe she's a... her stature looks better than this one. And you might have to sacrifice one for the other, but, if she's not the stature of a lady, of a woman. And, she's... I don't care whether she's pretty or not. You better look at her character, whether she's pretty or not pretty.
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True, you should look towards the character. But this does not mean that women of the church should not do their best to be pretty before the eyes of the men they love!
Remember Esther in the bible. She used cosmetics and fine perfumes to appear as beautiful before her man.


WMB then goes into the 'women should stay home and be housewives' doctrine, which is still kept by most MSG believers today:
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Now, I'm not much of this modernistic taste, of women working. When I seen these women with these uniforms on, riding around in this city, on motorcycles, as police, it's a disgrace to any city that will let a woman do that. See? See? As many men that's without work, it shows the modern thinking of our city. It shows the degrading. We don't have to have them women out there like that. They ain't got no business out there like that.
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This teaching is not scriptural, it is extra-biblical.

Deborah worked as a Judge in Israel (Judges 4--5). Anna worked at the Temple (Luke 2:36-38). Tabitha worked in her community sewing clothes for the needy (Acts 9:36, 39). Phoebe worked as a deaconess (Romans 16:1-2). An unnamed woman in Abel was an effective negotiator speaking with Joab about exposing a traitor who was hiding out in her city (2 Samuel 20:16-22).


WMB then compares women to cattle:
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I--I used to go with a rancher that I worked with, to buy cattle. And I noticed the old fellow always looking right in the face of a heifer before he went to bidding. Then he turned her head, and looked back and forth. I followed him along, watched him. And he looked her up and down, if she looked all right, the stature. Then he turned and looked her in the face, and sometime he'd shake his head and walk away.
I said, "Jeff, I want to ask you something."
He said, "Say on, Bill."
And I said, "Why you always look that cow in the face?" I said, "She looks all right, a good--good heavy cow."
Said, "I want to tell you, boy, you got a lot to learn." And I--I realized it after he told me. Said, "I don't care how she's made up. She might be beef, plumb to the hoof. But if she's got that wild stare in her face, don't you never buy her."
Said, "Why so, Jeff?"
"Well," said, "the first thing is," said, "she'll never stay put." And he said, "The next thing is, she'll never be a mammy to her calf." And said, "They put her in a pen now, the reason she's fat. You turn her loose, with that wild stare, she'd run herself to death."
I said, "You know, I kind of learned something. I believe that applies to women, too." Right. Right.
That wild, starey, ricketta look, better stay away from her, boy, all that there blue stuff over top her eyes. And I didn't... I wouldn't want that. I don't think that's becoming to a Christian. I don't care how much the television and paper says it's pretty. It's the most horrible-looking, hideous sight that I ever seen in my life.

Forgetting about Esther, WMB taught that makeup was 'of the devil'. All of that aside, it is clearly NOT divine love to compare women to cattle. Is this the way that Jesus spoke to the woman at the well?


He then gives another example of where he failed to use divine love -- only this time it was in front of people in public, not just behind the pulpit!
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I said, "What's the matter with that woman?" See?
And he said, "That, that's paint."
I said, "Well, my, my!" See? I thought they ought to have her in a pesthouse somewhere, you know, keep it from breaking out all over other women.
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He probably meant it as a joke, but he later makes an accurate statement when he says, "Now, maybe I'm just an old crank. "



WMB then gets into polygamy. Not against it, but to try to prove why it was legal under the old laws!
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Now, notice again how the natural bride types the spiritual. The Word says, that, "She was made for man, and not man made for her." 134 Now I'm going to speak, and why, in a few minutes, on the Bride of Christ, but I'm trying to show you the background of it. 135 "Woman was made for man, and not man for woman." That's the reason, under the old laws, that polygamy was legal. Look at David setting down there with five hundred wives, and the Bible said, "He was a man after God's own heart." With five hundred wives, and Solomon with a thousand, but not one of them women could have another husband.
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God never approved David or Solomon's many wives and concubines. There is no scriptural support or background that would support breaking God's natural plan. From Adam and Eve to Christ and his Bride, there has always been a biblical type of one man and one woman. God and his Church.

Instead, David is proof that God will save the vilest sinner!


WMB then condemns the very thing he is trying to do by twisting the scriptures:
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Notice, now, she could not have but one husband, because, "Woman was made for man, and not man for woman." That whole five hundred women was just David's wife, and it was a type. When Christ sets on the Throne in the Millennium, His Bride will be not one person, but it'll be tens of thousands, the Bride, all in One. And David had many wives, as individuals, but only all of them together was his wife. Like the whole Body of believers is the Bride of Christ, 'cause It's She, the woman. He was the Man. Now, we were made for Christ. Christ wasn't made for us. That's what we try to do today in our textbooks, is try to make the Word (which is Christ) suit us, instead of us trying to make ourself to suit the Word. That's the different.
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WMB then regurgitates his 'beauty is of the devil' doctrine:
When a man chooses a certain girl out of a family, he must not rely upon beauty, for beauty is deceiving. And beauty, modern worldly beauty, is of the Devil.
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"Oh," I hear someone say out there, "be careful here, preacher!"
I say that these things on this earth, that's called beautiful, is absolutely of the Devil. I'll prove it to you. Then, in the light of this remark, let's search God's holy Word, to see if it's right or not. And some of you women wants to be so pretty! See where it comes from. In the beginning, we find that Satan was so beautiful till he deceived Angels. And he was the most beautiful Angel of all of them. Showed, it lays in the Devil. Proverbs said, Solomon said, "Beauty is vain." That's right. Sin is beautiful. Certainly, it is. It's attractive.
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Whoever said, "be careful here, preacher" should be commended. Beauty is of God. God created even the Devil. God created Lucifer with beauty because God loves beauty. From the flowers to the rivers and streams, beauty is in all of God's creation.

To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. (Psalm 19:1)


WMB then regurgitates his 'women are lower than a dog' doctrine:
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I want to ask you, and say something here to you. I want you to notice, a few minutes. Of all of the species in the world, birds, animals, we find that on the animal life, all besides human, it's the male that's pretty, and not the female. Why that? Look at the... Look at the deer, the--the beautiful big buck with his horns, and the little muley doe. Look at the--the hen, the little, speckled hen, and the big beautiful-feathered rooster. Look at the male bird and the female bird. Look at the mallard duck and the female. See? And there isn't one specie in the world, that's made, that can deceive and stoop as low as a woman.
Now, sister, don't get up and go out. Just wait till we hear the end of This. See? See?
There is nothing, no female besides a woman, could be immoral. You call a dog "a slut," you call a hog "a--a sow," but, morally, they got more morals than half the movie stars there is out here. They cannot be nothing else but moral.
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We've already spoken of the fallacy in these words, but for just a moment take the reverse of this statement. There is not an animal on earth that can stoop lower than a man! Of course, they both fit the scenario -- because animals cannot sin!



WMB then starts fretting over how women were becoming more and more beautiful:
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And the woman was the one that was changed over, for the perversion. That's right. See where the beauty takes her to? Now, that's why that, today, we find that women is on the increase of beauty. You take Pearl Bryan, you ever see her picture? Supposed to be American's great beauty. There isn't a school kid out of any school but what would have her in a--a back row. Did you know it's supposed to be that way? Did you know the Bible speaks that that's the way it's going to be?
Do you know the fall came by women at the beginning? And fall... The end is going to wind up the same way, women coming into authority and ruling over men, and so forth. You know the Scripture says that? [Congregation says, "Amen."--Ed.] You know, the day that she puts on man's clothes, and bobs her hair, all those things are contrary to God's Word. And you know she represents the church? ["Yes."] When you watch what women are doing, you'll see what the church is doing. That's exactly right. Now, now, that's just as true as the Word of God is true.
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When you consider the course of tragedy that followed all of the preachers and evangelists in the Latter Rain movement and their predecessors, this statement actually makes sense. Women were becoming more beautiful -- to those ministers suffering with sexual addiction or worse. Most of these preachers and evangelists gave in to either money or sex, ruining their careers. WMB's career was cut short for him, so we cannot say with certain which direction he would have went.



WMB then tries to inject a little Serpent's Seed doctrine, the doctrine he got from reading the Kaballah:
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Cain, Satan's son, thought that God accepted beauty. He does today. Cain was Satan's son. "Oh, now!" you say. We won't go into details on that, but just let me settle it for you. The Bible said that he "was of that evil one." So, that settles it. All right. Now, he was Satan's son. And he thought that, bringing in an altar and making it real pretty for worship, that's what God would respect.
They think, think the same thing today. Certainly. This, "We build a great building. We'll have great denominations. We'll make the biggest building and the finest-dressed people, the most cultured clergymen." Sometimes God is ten million miles from it. That's right. Yet, it's a church.
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It is already discussed in this forum how the trees were created before woman, so we won't reiterate that position. But WMB tries here to tie beauty to Cain.

The Bible never said that Cain's offering was beautiful, it says that Cain gave his offering from the work of his own hands, the fruit of the ground. Cain's sacrifice was insufficient because it did not have the blood, which was required in the offering.

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Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. 3 In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground, 4 and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, 5 but for Cain and his offering he had no regard.
Genesis 4



WMB makes a big mistake about this, however:
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So, if God just respects worship, sincerity, sacrifice, Cain was just as just as Abel. But it was by revelation, that he understood that it was not apples that his parents eat.
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Cain was not just, he evidently did not obey God's command. And there is no mention of Abel's revelation, this is extra-biblical.



Then, WMB gets into the evils of science and it's toll on the world today:
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Now, just look what science has done for her. She comes out, first, with her hair chopped off, with one of these Jacqueline Kennedy hairdos, see, or something like that. And you know what the Bible said? The Bible actually gives a man, if he wants to, the right to put her away in divorcement, if she does that. "She's a dishonorable woman, that'll cut her hair." The Bible said so. Right. Didn't know that? Huh? Oh, yeah! I preach too much in California for you not to know that. That's right. Oh, yeah! What good does it do me? They do it, anyhow. You can't take the pig and change his name, make him a lamb. Notice.
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Science has nothing to do with haircuts; the women of the Old Testament shaved their heads for mourning. The Bible does not say anything about putting a woman away for divorcement if her hair is cut, this is extra-biblical. Also, the woman does not dishonor herself by cutting her hair as WMB states. She dishonors her husband if she prophesies with her head uncovered.


WMB was against learning about the scriptures, because once people learned the Bible, they might learn that WMB twisted it:
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That's the way the church does, gets big DD., Ph.D., LL.D. So you say, "Our pastor is this, that, and the other," maybe know no more about God than a Hottentot knows about Egyptian night. That's right. Right. Some theological seminary experience out there, and knows no more about God than nothing.
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WMB then makes a statement that could apply to the women of the 'message' today:
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Notice, just a minute, a nun in a Catholic church. That woman, to become a nun, and takes that last veil, she is absolutely sold out to that church. She is (soul, body, and spirit) property of that church. She has no mind of her own. She can't have, when she takes that last veil, no mind of her own, no will of her own. See out here, that Satan makes them his bogus, like the true.
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Once in the 'message', they have no mind of their own. They are owned by their husbands like slaves, forbidden to teach like the great women of the bible, compared to cattle, and cast down so low that they might as well give up.


WMB then gets back into his "do you remember the visions, do you remember the cloud" stories which we have already proven were fabricated, but makes this one statement which explains why he keeps re-hashing them over and over. He could not stand that Jesus could do greater things.
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Where, you have to do something, to symbolize it. Like a man put some salt in a cruse, and throwed it in the water, and said, "THUS SAITH THE LORD, let there be sweet water." And another one, Jesus picked up water and poured it into a jug, and--and made wine out of it.
You have to have something, to symbolize. That's what that was, that went up in the air and come down. That started that little whirlwind. Within twenty-four hours, It had shook that mountain till it cut a ridge around it.
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This is basically saying, "Jesus did this. See, I have a symbol too!" The only problem is that WMB's symbol was fabricated.



WMB then gets into his vision of the naked ladies passing by at the end of the world. He says that this vision of naked ladies was the reason he had this sermon:
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That's the reason I said what I have, tonight. I want to ask you a question. Is it later that we think? Could She already be called and chosen, sealed away? There won't be one extra one, you know. Could it be possible? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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This again is the same scare tactic as mentioned above. God has an "open door policy", and all we have to do is go through it. It is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, and he is persistently knocking on our hearts.


WMB then places the salvation on the people themselves, instead of the grace of God:
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And, lady, if you can't measure up to the qualification of a Christian, not as a nominal Christian; but in your heart, and your life is patterned exactly like God's marriage certificate here says it has to be.
And, church member, if your church isn't like that, can measure up to God's qualification of His Word, get out of it and get into Christ.
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Remember: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God" (Eph 2:8)


WMB then reminds Los Angeles of his vision that he plagiarized from Joe Brandt:
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"Oh, Capernaum," said Jesus, "thou who exalted into heaven, will be brought down into hell. For, if the mighty works had been done in Sodom and Gomorrah, it'd have been standing to this day." And Sodom, Gomorrah lays in the bottom of the Dead Sea. And Capernaum is in the bottom of the sea.
Thou city, who claims to be the city of the Angels, who has exalted yourself into heaven, and sent all the dirty, filthy things of fashions and things, till even the foreign countries come here to pick up our filth and send it away, to your fine churches and steeples, and so forth, the way you do. Remember, one day you'll be laying in the bottom of the sea, your great honeycomb under you right now. The wrath of God is belching right beneath you. How much longer He will hold this sandbar hanging out over that? When, that ocean out yonder, a mile deep, will slide in there, plumb back to the Salton Sea. It'll be worse than the last day of Pompeii. Repent, Los Angeles.
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The only problem with WMB's 'vision' is that the angel supposedly told him that Capernaum was in the bottom of the sea. Capernaum has NEVER been in the bottom of the sea! Ages and ages, centuries and centuries, Capernaum remains (in ruin) to this day. It was not in the bottom of the sea when WMB made this false statement, nor has it ever been according to history.